Waldenstrom's macroglobulinemia: Drug options

By Steve Kirsch
August 1, 2008

I get email all the time from people telling me to look at alternative therapies. None of these suggestions come with any studies showing consistent efficacy for WM. Nor have any of the more than 1,000 members of the IWMF talk list anecdotally confirmed efficacy of any alternative treatment. If there is an alternative treatment that produces a partial response (more than 50% drop in IgM) in at least 50% of patients, I'm interested. If there is no data, I'm not.

There are a small number of new drugs with relatively modest side effects that are being tested against WM with some success. My understanding is that the current thinking is to use a cocktail of these "low side effect" drugs in order to attack the disease simultaneously on multiple fronts. So it's basically the r-CHOP type of combination approach, but using drugs that individually have far less "collateral" damage than the normal chemo drugs. For instance, Perifosine alone has a very modest effect on your IgM (e.g., a 33% reduction). But when used in combination with other drugs, it's expected it will be surprisingly effective against WM. A major benefit of Perifosine is to chase the WM cells out from their hiding place in the bone marrow and bring them out into the open where they can be more easily killed. Perifosine on its own has some effect, but it may not be enough to be FDA approved on it's own. It's unfortunate that the FDA doesn't allow such two-drug combination clinical trials unless the other drug is already approved as the "standard of care" for that disease. So you cannot run a Velcade-Perifosine trial, but you can run a Rituxan-Perifosine trial. This is a chicken and egg problem resulting from old theories about cancer. The FDA has know about this problem for years, it was expressly pointed out again in Cliff Leaf's excellent Fortune cover story "The war on Cancer" (Fortune, March 22, 2004), but nothing has changed. It's also illegal for you to use a drug that is proven to be safe but that isn't yet proven effective unless you are in a clinical trial. So there are cancer drugs, such as Xcytrin that can extend your life for years, but since the FDA isn't satisfied on efficacy, your doctor has to leave you to die.

Old therapies can work well. One person went from 9240 to 251 in 6 months on Rituxan and CHP. Chlorambucil (in pill form) has worked well for many, for example, Jerry took 7mg/day (reduced from standard 8mg/day):

My Igm was over 6000 when I began chlorambucil treatment, in August 2005. When I completed treatment in January, 2007, my Igm was 2300. My last bloodtest in May 2008, showed an Igm of 1590. Since the termination of my treatment, my Igm has been consistantly been decreasing. During my previous remission, between 2003 to 2005, my Igm began to rise after 12 months, also following chlorambucil treatment.

My Igm did start dropping immediately, but slowly and in spurts. So I could lose several hundred points and then gain some back.Thus it took me about 12 weeks to drop my Igm from about 6350 to below 5000. Chlorabucil is continued.till the patient ceases to respond.

Thus when two to three consecutive bloodtests indicate no further progress, the treatment is discontinued. Based upon my readings of the talklist, It appears that many chlorambucil treatments are discontinued prematurly' due to the impatience, or lack of knowledge, of the doctor/ and or the patient., I'd like to add, that some patients respond to chlorambucil much faster than I did.

On the flip side, however, chlorambucil causes MDS and leukemia in the long run, so we avoid it in young people.. it is not that effective either.. Some studies show responses after a year of taking it.. Not he greatest drug to start with.

Solo Fludarabine works wonders for some people where Rituxan doesn't work and vice versa.

Daily cytoxan pills work, e.g.,

12/92 - dx: IgM a bit above 4700.
1/93 to 4/95 - tx #1: daily oral CYTOXAN, 150 mg; lowering IgM to 240.
 

Notes from Steve Treon talk (taken by Ron Draftz):

He didn't cover the gamut on treatments and that was both good and bad. Bad
only because there were a lot of members who are not familiar with the range
of treatments that are available. Good because he did spend a lot of time
talking Velcade which he clearly likes when given with Rituxan. He did
slightly promote a large trial (150 patients) of Velcade (B-Bortezomib),
Cytoxan, Dex and Rituxan (BCDR) that will be run against the same drugs
minus Velcade. It is his opinion that prolonged remissions come from
treatments that successively rid us of most of our tumor cells and he thinks
this BCDR is the better combo instead of CVP-R or CHOP-R which he states do
too much damage to our immune system and marrow. He also doesn't like
Fludara or Cladribine given with R because of the tendency for the
nucleosides to cause transformation to DLBCL in time. I had the impression
he was looking for some drug combo he could use over and over to produce
long intervals of remission until treatment again becomes necessary No
mention of Rituxan maintenance at all.

In spite of his desire to still hit the tumor cells hard he has continued
his willingness to use lower dose treatments for Thalidomide and Velcade to
overcome the PN problem. But he also said that WM patients don't really
need the aggressive treatments that are used for myeloma or other lymphomas.
He would hate my comparing his having finally using the approach that Mayo
has quietly pursued for a long time when it comes to moderate treatment
protocols. It will be quite interesting to see what happens in Stockholm
and whether the consensus panels finally begin to align when it comes to
using less aggressive treatments for first timers.

He made a very brief statement that RADOO1 looks like a drug that is producing extremely good results for WM. Perhaps we will see RAD001 (which I like to call RAD-ONE) used in combination once they better understand the outcomes of this drug. Those yet to be developed combo's may be what keeps all us going for a long, long time. Dr. Treon has only included WM patients in his RAD001 trial and accounts for 13 of the total of 19 WM patients at all trial sites. BTW, he is touting an unofficial disease-specific median survival of 16 to 19 years based on some recent, though yet unpublished, studies.

It's too bad he only could stay for 40 minutes of questions. We would have
enjoyed twice that. This was Steve at his best, almost as though all 56 of
us were seated and sipping coffee around a table as we discussed the outlook
for WM.

Comments from Irene Ghobrial:

by next year we should have the following oral drugs tested and some possibly very active in WM:
Perifosine
RAD001
Enzastaurin
LBH589 (oral drug)
BEZ235 (oral drug)
Amd3100 and RItuxan
Humax

We will also have the following combination trials:
RAD001 and rituxan
Rad001, velcade and rituxan
 

WM patients normally have:

Criteria for treatment is typically:

Older drugs:

Newer drugs include:

I am currently enrolled in clinical trial for statin treatment of WM. It's essentially Zocor; a pill you swallow once a day. The hope is that this might completely stop the disease from progressing. But I had to drop out since my IgM had started to affect my vision.

Unlike most cancers which you want to treat early and aggressively, for WM the recommended procedure is to only treat if there are symptoms. That makes sense since the treatment can kill you (or cause serious or permanent side effects) and has not been shown to substantially increase survival time. So treatment is normally started only when it is absolutely necessary to address the symptoms due to quality of life issues, i.e., when the disease clearly becomes worse than the treatment. Unfortunately, for some people, when the symptoms start to appear, the effects are permanent.

So I think that it's wrong. I think it is much smarter to treat the disease before it takes root. Once you allow it to grow, it is much harder to kill. And so what happens, you'll develop some serious symptom requiring you to treat the disease. Then you'll find you have no time. So you end up using really harsh treatments like chemo. That further weakens you and if it doesn't work, they use either stronger stuff. It is way smarter to do all of this while the disease is young. You can then find out what works, starting with the mildest treatments first. You have time.

In general, the treatments are also a huge guessing game, even among the top experts. Nobody knows which therapy is best for you or how you will respond because the response is quite variable from patient to patient, even if you have exactly the same numbers as another patient. It is "try this... ok, that didn't work...let's try this..." One top expert told a patient who wasn't getting any better with aggressive treatment "let's watch and wait" while another doctor told him to go on maintenance Rituxan. He did the latter and his health and his numbers both improved. Unfortunately, the cancer adapts to avoid being killed by the treatments so treatments that worked before can't be relied on to work later. Since there are only a handful of drugs that are effective, the number of times you get to experiment are limited.

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More on my WM
Steve Kirsch health update
Kirsch Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia Diary: tracks my blood counts over time
Q&A on treatment: Questions I had (many of which are still unknown)
Case histories: Case histories of people with WM
How to cure WM: My initial thinking on how you get to a cure
What the math tells us: Some preliminary thoughts I had on how the disease operates
My treatment option analysis: pros and cons of the treatment options that were available to me
CPR treatment details: misc advice I have on CPR therapy which I decided to discontinue
Project Ideas: a list of things to consider funding
My treatment plan for WM: Here's how I originally planed to treat my disease and why
Low dose Rituxan: This is my most recent thinking on how to best treat this disease today
 

Articles by others about my WM
Steve Kirsch’s Tough Battle: blog posting by Wall St. Journal reporter Kara Swisher
Entrepreneur's funds shift to rare cancer : Front page story in San Jose Mercury News on Oct 5, 2007

Medical research
How to cure a disease
Success models for curing a disease

Opinion pieces
The real enemy isn't the terrorists: my op-ed about government funding for cancer research

Waldenstrom's info
International Waldenstrom's Macroglobulenemia Foundation
Research Fund for Waldenstrom's -- Dedicated to a cure
Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia Program: at Dana Farber
WM Audio library: highly recommended!

Medical technical info
Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia basic information
Waldenstrom's Macroglobulinemia technical papers from DFCI
International WM Workshop papers
Diagnosis And Treatment Of Peripheral Neuropathies: one of the most common WM side effects
Treatment for Waldenstrom's macroglobulinemia -- Chen 15 (4) 550 -- Annals of Oncology

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